They show how Pakula came to view his protagonists. So we were terribly worried, and we didnt its a big newspaper and a lot of people in it, and you cant control all of them even if you wanted to. And she had a style of I want to know whats going on. But they grew to like one another" and are very good friends now. Most of them didnt realize that the world had changed. It was a difficult time to be associated with something youre pretty sure is not right. / CBS. Who would be dumb enough to work on this story on a Saturday morning? And they thought of me immediately. [24], In 2012, Carl Bernstein spoke at a rally of People's Mujahedin of Iran, an opposition Iranian organization that had previously been listed as a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the United States, reportedly receiving a payment for his speech.[25]. Get browser notifications for breaking news, live events, and exclusive reporting. It was mysterious always, his writing, but of great emotional impact. The five Watergate burglars and several other Nixon subordinates, including former U.S. Attorney General Mitchell, were sentenced to prison terms. Some questioned the credibility of the work due to the lack of footnotes and named sources, even though many acknowledged that it would have been impossible to write without the promises . ALICIA C. SHEPARD, who teaches journalism at American University, is the author of "Woodward and Bernstein: Life in the Shadow of Watergate. Because each style has its own formatting nuances that evolve over time and not all information is available for every reference entry or article, Encyclopedia.com cannot guarantee each citation it generates. Woodwards critics insisted that this informant was a fabrication, or at best, a composite based on a number of sources. First, the spokesmen at the White House, Ziegler and some of those guys, and next the Attorney General, and Chuck Colson, all of those people, the White House aides, were lying. Get our L.A. Woodward is the fifth branch of government! There was an election on in 72, and most of the rest of the country was saying, The Post is just playing politics, and all that stuff. In 2005, the mystery surrounding the identity of Watergate informant Deep Throat was ended. Following the 1972 arrests, journalists Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein of The Washington Post investigated the scandal relentlessly. This week marks the 50th anniversary of the Watergate break-in and, of. Refer to each styles convention regarding the best way to format page numbers and retrieval dates. Mr. Bradlee, by the time of the Watergate affair, the Post had already come into conflict with the Nixon administration over the Pentagon Papers. That, at least, was the interpretation of the late Stanley Kutler, one of Watergates leading historians, who noted: You had to have that kind of corroborative evidence to nail the president of the United States.. Compared to Woodward, Bernstein was a strong writer, and therefore wrote articles based on Woodward's information from Deep Throat. Woodward also got a dig in about Bernsteins famed love of the ladies, recalling Bernstein got a list of people who worked on the Richard Nixon re-election campaign from an ex-girlfriend. If you didnt have the Independent Counsel, which was a direct outgrowth of Watergate, you never would have had Ken Starr, you never would have had a criminal investigation of Clinton. And we had to be sure the headline was right. Woodward and Bernstein never disclosed any information or provided hints about Deep Throat and spoke about him in vague terms in their book, "All the President's Men.". (The Academy of Achievement interviewed both Bob Woodward and Ben Bradlee, the Executive Editor of The Washington Post, on May 1 during the 2003 International Achievement Summit in Washington, D.C. Their interviews are combined here.). Watergate was the biggest political scandal of the century. Watergate reporters come together to discuss the 40-year-old scandal which resulted in the resignation of President Richard Nixon. The notes from Pakulas interview with Ephron reveal a key to his understanding of Woodward and Bernstein. [31] Due to their different styles, other journalists described them as a perfect team. Kind of parse it out. But she wasnt the editor. We had heard that they had this big blockbuster coming up, and suddenly, they just dropped this on us. Tell us a little bit about what actually happened. I have forgotten which one it was. Ben Bradlee: How about the Boston Globe and the Catholic Church? Five burglars had been caught red-handed in the complex, where the Democratic National Committee had its headquarters; four of them turned out to be ex-CIA agents who did security work for the Republicans. But the new Woodward and Bernstein piece was remarkably good, in a sense, of placing the crimes of the Nixon White House in a broader campaign of a war against lawful dissent to the Vietnam War that expanded to the media and the opposition Democrats. We talk all the time. 39 or 40 people in this White House staff went to jail. Mr. Woodward, at what point did you realize that President Nixon was implicated in this? Pakula didnt want facts alone. Leon Jaworski, like richard m. nixon, came from a poor, deeply religious background. My father was a lawyer there, and I worked as a janitor in his law office when I was in high school, and started reading the files and discovered that the projection that people in the town made about their own lives was in fact not who they were, that lots of them had secrets, and many of them were in my fathers law office files. We actually published three papers with it before they stopped us, and then we were in the courts for 12 days. His writing was serious and matter-of-fact. It was going to be scrutinized and examined. Mr. Woodward, once you heard one of the burglars say he worked for the CIA, where did you take it from there? And in that same space of time, Woodward's written five books. J. Anthony Lukas, Nightmare: The Underside of the Nixon Years (1976) is an exciting narrative and analysis by a New York Times reporter that puts Watergate into the context of what the author refers to as "Richard Nixon's abuse of his presidential powers." Events are in no way simple or cinematic. Woodward was soon joined on the story by Bernstein, and together the two young reporters undertook a series of investigative reports that gradually revealed the connections between the burglary and a converging pattern of crimes that finally implicated President Richard M. Nixon himself, forcing his resignation in the face of otherwise certain impeachment. I am repeatedly struck by how I have missed part of the story, always. The next year, when I entered college determined to be a reporter just like the guys that Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman had portrayed on the screen, there was a surge in enrollment in journalism schools. [7][8] He attended Montgomery Blair High School in Silver Spring, Maryland, where he worked as circulation and exchange manager for the school's newspaper Silver Chips. Were much better friends than we were at the time. I think there were two or three then, but I think there are six now. Pick a style below, and copy the text for your bibliography. I didnt start reading seriously until probably junior high school. They weren't big, White House reporters. [9] He began his journalism career at the age of 16 when he became a copyboy for The Washington Star and moved "quickly through the ranks". With astonishing regularity, Woodward has continued to produce bestselling books on previously hidden aspects of American life. It was very complicated, then and now. He said, Youre crazy. And at the same time, it was my decision. Did you? and he said, No. And the whole town shook, as far as Im concerned, because that was the first time we had been accused of getting anything wrong. Back at home, you could cross out the word "party" and replace it with "Nixon." The real crimes of the last 40 years -- the political power of an American kleptocracy that has crushed the nation's middle class, the state of permanent wars abroad and the loss of the public square to a militarized police force at home -- didn't fit into the box that Woodward and Bernstein and the Watergate scandal helped to create. The book and movie introduced Woodwards super-secret source, Deep Throat. For 31 years after Nixons resignation, Washington periodically engaged publicly in guessing games about the sources identity. Its small wonder that the heroic-journalist myth still defines popular understanding of Watergate. Not, "What did the president know and when did he know it? Carl Milton Bernstein (/ b r n s t i n / BURN-steen; born February 14, 1944) is an American investigative journalist and author.While a young reporter for The Washington Post in 1972, Bernstein was teamed up with Bob Woodward, and the two did much of the original news reporting on the Watergate scandal.These scandals led to numerous government investigations and the eventual . But by end of 1976, they had an ugly breakup and went their separate ways. Hunt W. House. So I called the White House and asked for Mr. Hunt, and he came on, and I said, Why is your name in the address books of these two burglars who were caught in the Democratic Headquarters? And he screamed out, Good God! and hung up the phone. The American escalation in Vietnam had just begun. Why has the heroic-journalist interpretation of Watergate persisted through the 50 years since burglars linked to Nixons campaign were arrested at the Watergate complex in Washington? Woodward stayed at The Washington Post. The truth that few wanted to confront was Nixon wasn't really unique at all -- just a peculiarly rotten and inept defender of a system, the national security state, that actually didn't work at all, that was corrupt to its very core. Despite their stark differences, they needed each another. Bob Woodward: This is a book I did in 1999 that took the five presidents after Nixon Ford, Carter, Reagan, the first Bush, and Clinton and analyzed the Special Prosecutor law, and showed how that, and the new climate of Congressional activism and media activism, meant the presidency was going to be forever altered. Karlie Kloss and Taylor Swift still good friends - 8 Days - 8Days.sg. THIS year marks the 30th anniversary of the movie All the Presidents Men, starring Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman as investigative reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, respectively. But even they seemed to take the wrong lessons from what they'd done. Then, copy and paste the text into your bibliography or works cited list. There was even a movie made about the scandal and their role in it, "All The President's Men.". Was he the more experienced journalist at the time? Woodward! Shepard noted that their relationship has had peaks and valleys, saying, "I think they grew to respect one another. They were not hard to support, these young reporters, because they were right. How did we get into committing 500,000 troops 10,000 miles away in a way that we could never win? The who-was-Deep-Throat conjecture kept Woodward, Bernstein and the heroic-journalist myth at the center of Watergate conversations. How did you get interested in those things? It took some of us from the Watergate generation a long time to see it. Can he get the hurt and vulnerability?, Throughout filming in 1975, if there was a question on how Woodward or Bernstein might react, Redford or Hoffman or Pakula called either man. The unmasking of Woodward and Bernstein sheds no credit on Bradlee, nor on his employer, my late friend, and a very gracious and generally admirable woman, Kay Graham. So I went to work with about seven or eight other people, including Carl (Bernstein), and I went to the arraignment of the five burglars, and the judge wanted to know where one of them worked, and he was mumbling. Deep Throat is the pseudonym given to the secret informant who provided information in 1972 to Bob Woodward, who shared it with Carl Bernstein.Woodward and Bernstein were reporters for The Washington Post, and Deep Throat provided key details about the involvement of U.S. president Richard Nixon's administration in what came to be known as the Watergate scandal. I suspect that most people from the generations that came after mine don't really know that much about Watergate other than that a president resigned in disgrace, the only time that's ever happened. Bull---- artist. Bob Woodward: Sure. Redford can get that compulsive drive. And he was the one who said that. As the Watergate scandal unfolded in the pages of the Washington Post in the early 1970s, the two reporters who first broke the story became just as famous as the people they were writing about. The role of Congress and the courts -- where even Republicans refused to turn a blind eye to a Republican president's wrongdoing -- was critical to this belief, but it was the journalist at the very top of this moral pyramid. The reporters were all there, and the editors were there, working on the copy, and there was some guy writing for the next morning. Bob Woodward: No, not that I can think of. Kind of going, CIA. And the judge said, Where? And he went, CIA. And the judge said, Speak up. Bob Woodward: Yes, and then later, my parents were divorced, and my father remarried a woman who had three kids also. His father was a judge and Woodward eventually entered the Navy after graduating from Yale. So I had just a sense that we had done some of the first work on this that any suggestion that we had caused it, or brought down a president, was a stretch, to say the least, and not factual. He was a much better writer. But there's a lot that's not generally known about Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein. An informant in the federal government, it was not until 2005 that the public finally put a name on Deep Throat. We didnt allow any television people in. Hed started at age two, I think. Whereas the Bernstein and Woodward stories in the Washington Post had consisted of straight investigative reports, All the President's Men told not only the story of Watergate but the story of Woodward and Bernstein. Bob Woodward: I was not married at the time and loved being free to do something. ON 9 August 1974, Richard Nixon arose in the White House and, after meeting briefly with the household staff a, Iran-Contra Affair Richard Nixon's RN: The Memoirs of Richard Nixon (1978) gives the former president's version of the events surrounding Watergate. Ben Bradlee: The Pentagon Papers was a study commissioned by Nixon in the first or second year of his first term, 1970 or 69. I now do my books alone, but I have a full-time assistant who is kind of my collaborator. AllRightsReserved. While a young reporter for The Washington Post in 1972, Bernstein was teamed up with Bob Woodward, and the two did much of the original news reporting on the Watergate scandal. Since 2003, he has written four books on President George W. Bushs conduct of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq: Bush at War, Plan of Attack, State of Denial and The War Within. They deposited, at the end of 1974, over $600,000. Much to his chagrin. It seems that there are very few long, extensive investigations into corruption where an editor lets reporters work on a story for a couple of years. Even Woodward has disavowed the heroic-journalist interpretation, once telling an interviewer that the mythologizing of our role in Watergate has gone to the point of absurdity, where journalists write that I, single-handedly, brought down Richard Nixon. They were after us and The New York Times. This button displays the currently selected search type. The distinct memories I have of books are from college. Overnight, Woodward and Bernstein became household names. What made you back the kids, Woodward and Bernstein? As Hoffman ran, Bernstein, already a celebrity, understood how much had happened in the three years since five burglars broke into the Democratic Party headquarters at the Watergate hotel. When expanded it provides a list of search options that will switch the search inputs to match the current selection. Were you the only child? Bob Woodward: Oh, yes. William Faulkners books, certainly. I would have summer jobs, while my parents and other siblings would go on vacation, for instance. In 1975, it was turned into a movie starring Dustin Hoffman as Bernstein and Robert Redford as Woodward which later went on to be nominated in multiple Oscar (including Best Picture nomination), Golden Globe and BAFTA categories. Certainly during Watergate, it didnt get transmitted to Carl Bernstein or myself through them. And he would be going over to the White House to give Nixon the news that he didnt have any his support in the Senate was eroding. It was a takedown that transcended politics, transcended ideology. We were reporting on the Presidents men, and the White House people, the Attorney General, John Mitchell, people in the Nixon campaign, the Committee to Re-Elect the President, and the focus was not Nixon. While single, in the 1980s, Bernstein became known for dating Bianca Jagger, Martha Stewart, and Elizabeth Taylor,[16] among others. Still, facts and events from the book were questioned by Nixon's friends and family, and some obvious sources denied ever speaking with Bernstein and Woodward. He knew all about my mother, brother -- everything. (Jason Robards, who played Bradlee, is on screen only 10 minutes.). When they found such a player in their legendary source "Deep Throat" -- later revealed as deputy FBI director Mark Felt -- they seemed blind to the reality that Felt wasn't motivated by an altruistic loyalty to the nation or the truth but by blind career ambition and petty revenge. Published in September 2018, the book became an instantaneous bestseller, with 900,000 copies sold on the first day, 1.1 million in the first week. Theres an example of incredibly good reporting over a long, protracted time period, laced with denials by the highest people in Boston society the Cardinals and the priests. Sometimes, Felt would speak on the phone, but on other occasions, he would meet Woodward in a parking garage in Virginia. Nora Ephron's novel Heartburn (1983) caused a minor journalistic sensation with its fictionalized description of her divorce from Bernstein. He said, Youre crazy. So he didnt think it was a good idea.. You have kids who werent born at that time doing term papers on it at colleges and high schools. Bob Woodward: Thats not humility, thats realism. Bernstein was among three CNN reporters who last . Felt was 91 when, in 2005, he acknowledged through his familys lawyer that he had been Woodwards source after all. Woodward had married reporter Francie Barnard, and Bernstein was dating Nora Ephron, whom he married on April 14, 1976 -- 10 days after the movie debuted in Washington. Woodward gained valuable information through an unnamed informant, nicknamed Deep Throat, by Post managing editor Howard Simon. Mr. Woodward, in your bookShadowyou talk about how Nixons presidency affected the presidents whove come since. We wanted to be sure that it wasnt sabotaged in some way by, you know, printers slipping in the F word or something like that that was going to screw it up. But in the end, its only a glancing blow. The duo of Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein have become synonymous with reporting the comings and goings of the Watergate scandal. Bob Woodward: Or The Sound and the Fury, which is his great book. Most of us had quite fancy security clearances in that capacity. We had such good sources. To a certain extent, I always saw myself as a lawyer. These actions would lead to his resignation in August 1974. The best show recs delivered to your inbox. John Dean's afternoon testimony before the Senate Watergate committee, the crest of a high and beautiful wave.", They wrote that history has shown that Watergate was even worse than we thought it was at the time, they seemed blind to the reality that Felt wasn't motivated by an altruistic loyalty to the nation or the truth but by blind career ambition and petty revenge, we've seen a president who WASN'T impeached for evading Congress to cut secret arms deals in Iran and fund a secret war in Nicaragua, Bob Woodward was at the very head of that pack. You probably didnt sleep a whole lot that night. Why is he interested in that? But every Republican in the country was interested in Chappaquiddick, and not a few Democrats, so I said, Find out what the hell he took it out for. This practice was usually followed scrupulously, but broke down when Bernstein and Woodward wrongly claimed that Hugh Sloan, a CRP official, had implicated H. R. "Bob" Haldeman, Nixon's chief of staff, in testimony before a grand jury. His unfounded fear of being fired and his need to belong fueled his workaholic lifestyle. We talk all the time. You mentioned that you had been at the Post for nine months. Woodward noted how Bernstein had taught him about the importance of being very aggressive, and recalled how Bernstein had clambered aboard a full cab with the Watergate burglars lawyers to get information and borrowed $20 from Woodward, which he did not return. Bob Woodward: We would frequently do competing drafts of stories and put it together. He persuaded The Washington Post to give him an unpaid two-week try-out. [3] The Star, however, unofficially required a college degree to write for the paper. [12][13], In 1965, Bernstein left the Star to become a full-time reporter for the Elizabeth Daily Journal in New Jersey. The tapes were crucial to determining that Nixon had obstructed justice. More than 40 years after they became the world's most famous journalism duo, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein are still making news. I cant remember, but there were so many. Chris Pine finally sets the record straight, Oscars diversity improved after #OscarsSoWhite, study shows. Its our job to figure them out.. W. Joseph Campbell does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organisation that would benefit from this article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their academic appointment. We were more expert than a lot of the government witnesses who testified against us. By his own admission he failed at that". Were there other writers in your father or mothers family? (February 22, 2023). But she finally said, Well, okay. Bob Woodward: Is the CIA connected to this? Bob Woodward has two daughters, Tali and Diana. Alicia Shepard fills in the gaps in her very candid book, "Woodward and Bernstein: Life in the Shadow of Watergate.". We had to be sure. Most news outlets dropped the story, and Nixon was re-elected in a historic landslide. Bernstein was among three CNN reporters who last week broke the story of former Donald Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's allegation that Trump knew in advance of the June 2016 meeting between representatives of his . He dropped out of the University of Maryland and became a reporter in New Jersey where his investigative reporting caught the eye of the Washington Post, which hired him in 1966 (via Huffington Post). He and 39 others, I might add. Bob Woodward: Certainly. What does the American Dream mean to you? JAWORSKI, LEON Just it was terribly, critically important that we do it right and that we not brag, not seem to be bragging, and that we didnt allow any television in there for days. 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