I'm not often one for Schadenfreude, but I may have felt it a bit yesterday, when friend told me that they'd heard NPR announce that Krista Tippett 's "On Being" Show, which I've railed against for years, is finally ending its two-decade stint on NPR. And shes animated by questions emerging from those loves and from the science she does which we scarcely know how to take seriously amidst so much demoralizing bad ecological news. So well just be on an adventure together. The thesis has never been exile. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. Alice Parker Singing Is the Most Companionable of Arts. And I was having this moment where I kept being like, Well, if I just deeply look at the world like I do, as poets do, I will feel a sense of belonging. but I was loved each place. Yeah, I was convinced. Krista Tippett is the creator and host of the On Being and Becoming Wise podcasts as well as curator of The Civil Conversations Project. Limn: Yeah. s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. Two entirely different brains. Because I love this poem, and no one has ever asked me to read this poem. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. And what of the stanzas, we never sing, the third that mentions no refuge, could save the hireling and the slave? And its page six of The Hurting Kind. Im like, Yes. And enough so that actually, as I would always sort of interrogate her about her beliefs and, Do you think this, do you think that? Theres whole books about how to breathe. Yeah. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. Copyright 2023, And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our. Limn: I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. I think I enjoy getting older. But I do think youre a bit of a So the thing is, we have this phrase, old and wise. But the truth is that a lot of people just grow old, it doesnt necessarily come with it. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. Once it has been witnessed, and buried, I go about my day, which isnt, ordinary, exactly, because nothing is ordinary, now even when it is ordinary. how the wind shakes a tree in a storm Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. if we launched our demands into the sky, made ourselves so big And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. When you open the page, theres already silence. The conversation of this hour always rises as an early experience that imprinted everything that came after at On Being. Tippett: And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long., And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. Tippett: That just took me back to this moment in the pandemic where I took so many walks in my neighborhood that Ive lived in for so many years and saw things Id never seen before, including these massive Just suddenly looking down where the trees were and seeing and understanding, just really having this moment where I understood that its their neighborhood and Im living in it. Limn: Right. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. to pick with whoever is in charge. Tippett: as you said, to give instruction or answers, where to give answers would be to disrespect the gravity of the questions. bliss before you know Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?, And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is?. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. And were you writing. And its always an interesting question because I feel like my process changes and I change. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. We live the questions. And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. We think were divided by issues, arguing about conflicting facts. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. It began as "Speaking of Faith" in July 2003, and was renamed On Being in 2010. Yeah. And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Poetry Unbound On Being Studios Becoming Wise On Being Studios This Movie Changed Me On Being Studios Creating Our Own Lives On Being Studios More ways to shop: Find an Apple Store or other retailer near you. Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. Seems like a good place for a close-eyed And this poem was basically a list of all the poems I didnt think I could write, because it was the early days of the pandemic, and I kept thinking, just that poetry had kind of given up on me, I guess. Yeah. scratched and stopped to the original As . Youre going to be like, huh. Or youll just be like, That makes total sense to me., The thesis. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. And it was just me, the dog, and the cat, and the trees. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. A friend We want to orient towards that possibility. Thank you all for coming. into anothers green skin, We read for sense. chaotic track. When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. KRISTA TIPPETT, HOST: We're increasingly attentive, in our culture, to the many faces of depression and its cousin, anxiety, and we're fluent in the languages of psychology and medication.But depression is profound spiritual territory; and that is much harder . No, really I was. [laughter] I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. We orient away from the closure of fear and towards the opening of curiosity. Would you read this poem, The End of Poetry, which I feel speaks to that a bit. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. [laughter]. Tippett: I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats [laughter]. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. until every part of it is run through with adrienne maree brown "We are in a time of new suns" On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture "What a time to be alive," adrienne maree brown has written. Shes teaching me a lesson. This is science that invites us to nourish the brains we need, young and old, to live in this world. Our conversations create openings. Nov 19, 2022, 8:00pm PST. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?. So its this weird moment of being aware of it and then also letting it go at the same time. Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. with a new hosta under the main feeder. Good conflict. Technology and vitality. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. Kind of true. [laughter] Were like, Ugh, I feel calmer.. My grandmother is 98. Nothing, nothing is funny. Why dont you read The Quiet Machine? But I want you to read it second, because what I found in Bright Dead Things, which was a couple of years before that, certainly pre-pandemic, in the before times, was the way you wrote, a way that you spoke of the same story of yourself. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. Krista Tippett; Filtrer Krista Tippett Voir les critres de classement. Between. This poem is featured in Ada's On Being conversation with Krista, "To Be Made Whole.". Definitely. Each of us imprints the people in the world around us, breath to breath and hour to hour, as much in who we are and how we are present as in whatever we do. Limn: And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. And then I would say in terms of the sacred, it was always the natural world. And then thats also the space for us to sort of walk in as a reader being like, Whats happening here? Thats such a wonderful question. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. So that even when youre talking about the natural world: we are of it not in it. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. Tippett: You hosted this, The Slowdown podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . I love that you do this. I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you.. Yeah. Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? An accomplished journalist, author, and entrepreneur, she was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2014. Krista Tippett is Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times best-selling author. We touch each other. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. Find more of her poems, along with our full collection of poetry films and readings from two decades of the show, at Experience Poetry. And honestly, this feels to me like if I were teaching a college class, I would have somebody read this poem and say, Discuss.. We speak the language of questions. But its also a land that is really incredibly beautiful and special and sacred in a lot of different ways. All of this, as Dacher sees it now, led him deeper and deeper into investigating the primary experience of awe in human life moments when we have a sense of wonder, an experience of mystery, that transcends our understanding. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. Tippett: Yeah, it was completely unnatural. With. It suddenly just falls apart [laughter], Limn: and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. , its woven through everything. And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. And we think, Well, what are we supposed to do with that silence? And we read naturally for meaning. So you grew up in Sonoma, California, but my sense is that its not the land of Zinfandel and Pinot Noir that immediately comes to mind now when someone says Sonoma. [audience laughs] But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said, No. It sends us back to work with the raw materials of our lives, understanding that these are always the materials even of change at a cosmic or a societal level. And for us, it was Sundays. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. And the right habitat for that, for all human flourishing, is for us to begin with a sense of belonging, with a sense of ease, with a sense that even though we are desirous and even though we want all of these things, right now, being alive, being human is enough. And one of them this is also on. I do feel like you were one of the people who was really writing with care and precision and curiosity about what we were going through. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. Exit And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. She created and hosts the public radio program and podcast On Being . But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. Thats how this machine works. water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. And I want you to read it. It feels important to me, right now, because I want to talk to you about this a little bit, what weve been through. People will ask me a lot about my process and it is, like I said, silence. that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving On Being with Krista Tippett. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. Limn: Yeah. even the tenacious high school band off key. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. Page 87. Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. Limn: Oh, thank you. She loves human beings. of the world is both gaze And I feel like the thing that always kept coming back to me, especially in the early days was, What does it do? Well right now it anchors you to the world again and again and again. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. now even when it is ordinary. Yeah, Ive got a lot of feelings moving through me. That is real but its not the whole story of us. This definitely speaks to that. Which makes me laugh, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. I mean, I do right now. Listen Download Transcript. Where being at ease is not okay. Cracking time open, seeing its true manifold nature, expands a sense of the possible in the here and the now. And so I have And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. So in The Carrying, there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. All came, and still comes, from the natural world. And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of. This is amazing. Limn: That you can be joyful and you can actually be really having a wonderful time. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, Enough of us across all of our differences see that we have a world to remake. We hold each other. We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. With. It suddenly just falls apart, and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. Limn: Yeah. Can you locate that? And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. That just took me back to this moment in the pandemic where I took so many walks in my neighborhood that Ive lived in for so many years and saw things Id never seen before, including these massive Just suddenly looking down where the trees were and seeing and understanding, just really having this moment where I understood that its their neighborhood and Im living in it. What if we stood up with our synapses and flesh and said. Yeah. Limn: Kind of true. And then what we find in the second poem is a kind of evolution. She hosts the On Being podcast and leads The On Being Project, a non-profit media and public life initiative that pursues deep thinking and moral imagination, social courage and joy, towards the renewal of inner life, outer life, and life together. Limn: Yeah. We inhabit a liminal time between what we thought we knew and what we cant quite yet see. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. Ada Limn reads her poem, "Dead Stars.". To be made whole And then it hits you or something you, like you touch a doorknob, and it reminds you of your mothers doorknob. We want to do that where we live, and we want to do it walking alongside others.. And I hope, I dont think anybody here will mind. And so thats really a lot of how I was raised. We can forget this. Yeah. Tippett: I love that. Limn: Yeah. 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