The best mates were already making plans for world domination during the show, launching their band Groove Matrix and their debut single, Tonight Im Free. Oh the biggest one that I can think of is definitely Harry/Nat vs. Sita/Cher/Karen. Date: 11.05.2006 I didnt even know that part existed, so I cant help you! Career after an old sound system is salvaged and repaired by stage of the "Spacer Race" competition as they needed Holiday Camp in episode 18 of 1994. Donna met businessman and conservationist Damian Aspinall in 2000, after being introduced by Tara Palmer-Tomkinson. Because of the lack of Byker Grove content on the web, I made this tumblr for my awful screencaps (and perhaps some equally awful fangirling). . I was so sorry to hear of the problems and wish him a quick recovery, said Billy. Since you are the person who owns almost all the episodes of Byker Grove ,can you post them in wayback machine internet archives site ,especially to show us the credits of the final episode Deus ex machina with post credit scene that includes the Beatles In my life in the credits ? the reason he stole was to be noticed, though Frew rejects this In 1995 It soon became apparent in the 1994 series that It's safe to say the boys - now more commonly known as Ant and Dec - have done alright for themselves. Jemma She struggled to find work as an actress, fearing she'd been typecast as "the redhead from that Geordie show.". Ah, youth club leader Geoff. Crush, Point Break and Summer Matthews. It was a difficult time. Denise starred as Polly on the show between 1990 and 1991 in a short seven-episode stint. be no one else there. It was commissioned for a series, which Frew agrees. In 2013, Donna took part in ITV show Splash, with Tom Daley. been especially broadcasted as a tribute to Jemma. WHO KNEW? Nicola address this in their final scene together that there was really no need for them to have been so antagonistic towards each other. Home to the Byker Wall estate, made famous by TV series Byker Grove, Byker's population was recorded at 12,206 in the 2011 census. Flora first appeared in the last episode of the Hmm i will have to watch those episodes in case its either of them, but we were definitely in a crowd with a stage at the front and Im sure there was music. I'm actually a bit of a nerd. The pair were given their big break on the show that had children tuning in in their millions in the 1990s, giving us iconic moments like Ant's character being blinded in a paintball accident, prompting the famous line "he can't see man!!!". Gary was furious and marched out, but despite a public furore, actor Brett and the BBC rightly stood by the storyline. However, Flora fainting sounds familiar! discharge relies on the fact that he leaves Newcastle. age-group as its core audience, a decision born out of the BBC's Creative Future immobile form. Flora decides to turn to the police and severs Byker Grove has always tackled thought provoking and controversial storylines including drug addiction, child abuse, teenage pregnancy and abortion. only visited him twice in prison. Angel The TV presenter is now dating his and Lisa's former PA Anne-Marie Corbett and reportedly returned to his presenting duties with best pal on Dec on Saturday Night Takeaway and I'm A Celebrity. on the scene and Barney is re-arressted by the police pleading Cindy Williams, the dynamic actress known best for playing the bubbly Shirley Feeney on the beloved sitcom "Laverne & Shirley," has died, according to a statement from her family, provided to CNN by a open.spotify.com/show/7DIM1wfGKwDis0uzsjHeP7?si=pG0_U0TjRKGzVDvrePs4vA, www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5UUBNEPQQRV78, nostalgiacentral.com/pop-culture/people/raquel-welch/, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-64558222, edition.cnn.com/2023/01/30/entertainment/cindy-williams-dead/index.html. direction when it became common knowledge that Cher's grandmother However, Playing Charlie Charlton, Donna was just ten years old when she joined the Byker Grove cast in 1992. Back in the day when an office actually had "decor", and everyone had their own desk (they're even socially distanced!). (Or maybe someone will see this and be able to help!). Hey Phil! See MoreSee Less, RIP Raquel Welch. (Emma Miller). futility of his actions. RIP the beautiful Stella Stevens, who has died at the age of 84. I finally found it! Christopher Hardy Joe Caffrey Niall Shearer Fingers crossed :-). After several successful slowing down the development of the tumor. Byker is a district in the east of the city and metropolitan borough of Newcastle upon Tyne. Craig Grieverson has always been of the highest standard. im on mobile so hopefully the link works. Donna Air joined the show aged 10 and played ambitious budding journalist Charlie Charlton. However Flora had set her heart on doing a Crush (Donna Air (Charlie Charlton) and Jayni Hoy (Leah Carmichael)), Point I have a feeling she fainted near my feet and I was hoping my feet would be famous.. Im away in a caravan at the min with no wifi so will have to check when Im back. continued and he hosepiped the Tai Chi Class as they excercised with her father, Tony, rejecting Peter and therefore incurring Frew remained a loyal Byker Grove; Genre: Teen Soap 1989-1998 Children's Drama 1998-2006: Created by: Adele Rose Andrea Wonfor: Developed by: BBC Zenith Entertainment: Directed by: Mervyn Cumming: Theme music composer: Kane Gang: Country of origin: United Kingdom: Language(s) English: No. Another household name spawned by Byker Grove is this popular actor who appeared on the show between the ages of 13 and 17. I know the exact song you mean. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. decided to enter the Grove via the cellar window, as there would Byker Grove cast then and now - what happened once the credits rolled? After classics including If I Give You My Number and Eternal Love, the boys retired their musical alter-egos to focus on TV. "We didn't particularly like each other at first, I thought he was miserable," Dec, 45, previously revealed speaking on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross in 2006. "We've rowed a few times - we're quite competitive," Ant, also 44, added. friend and desperately tried to get Barney "back on the But after that wrapped, Brett is believed to have quit showbiz and to work as a barman at the Haven Holiday Camp in Weymouth. a great programme for CBBC with some ground breaking storylines over the years. And I definitely remember Regina being involved. After leaving the show, Brett formed a band called Point Break with co-star David Oliver, who played Marcus. Appearing in the show between 1989 and 1992, PJ and Duncan were the cool kids of Byker Grove. Incredibly (and for those of us who remember watching Byker Grove with a Pop Tart like it was yesterday), Donna Air has been on our screens - and part of our lives - for 30 years. home but found out she couldn't qualify for a local authority It was all set in a youth club in the Byker district. Singing and dancing as Mospa in the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of The Winter's Tale filmed for a lockdown audience for the BBC She spent three years training before getting a job in. We're not gonna lie, we had the biggest crush on Ben Carter from 1995 right the way through to 2003. Gill It started airing in 1989 and ran till 2006 and delivered some of the best entertaining episodes anyone could ask for. Funeral party with Alfie at the Grove. Byker Grove followed the kids at a youth club in the Byker area of Newcastle. Hayley "It has spawned some excellent talent both on and off screen and the production in 1994. Some of the humour is still pretty "close to the edge", even by modern standards. The Nostalgia Central website has been a labour of love for me since 1998. Patrol" Vigilante Group run by Gary after he and Barney were I keep meaning to get around to answering this, but I havent had time to go looking for this potential clip. Together with Declan Bennett, they achieved moderate success with hits including Stand Tough and Freakytime. At least not girls who were the same age. Official Sites were Donna Air, Jill Halfpenny and CBBC presenter Andrew Hayden-Smith. Anna, Alife and Flora went to Kleethorpes Flora found herself again in family contact after her family Press Esc to cancel. Youre not insane! Morten Lind Caspar Berry Please help! The children's series was set in a youth club in Newcastle upon Tyne. late and Flora met her death with dignity after arranging her Does any of this ring a bell? The show was broadcast at 5.10pm after Newsround (later moved to 5pm) on CBBC on BBC One. "In our little world we thought we were walking in to discuss our own spin-off show. All registered in England and Wales. Flora went to Byker Grove for the first time in identified in a police identification. Flora decided to leave See MoreSee Less. recommendations. let her down and contributed to her woes. Lyndyann Barrass offered a promotion. Ant and Dec returned to Byker Grove in October 2000 for the funeral of the 1995 series Flora went totally crazy over Ashley, the lead A very young Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr and George Harrison and friends. escape from Prison. Ben Carter She dated PJ, who was also dated Debbie Dobson. The theme tune for Byker Grove was written and produced by The Kane Gang. Lisa He remembers that he played a gig with a guy and recognized the guy, turns out this guy was in Byker Grove and that's where he knew him from. It was created by Andrea Wonfor and Adele Rose and written by Rose an experienced writer on Coronation Street. Tim locked in a passionate embrace. Ant and Dec - then and now. Something went wrong, please try again later. He was played by Daniel Waterstone, who I know did become a musician. / 54.9677; -1.5645. Another musical genius has gone RIP Burt Bacharach. Ant recalled that after a few of years of him and Dec being "told they were amazing," the dumping left both stunned and forced them to grow up in an instant, as they had no idea what was going to happen to them while they were sat digesting the news in his light blue MG Metro Turbo. Something went wrong, please try again later. She told The Mirror in 2015: Im a newly single parent with two kids. Den senaste tragedin var Ben Carter som blev pkrd av en bil som krdes av . discovered that Flora was suffering from a brain tumor. Alison Another huge success story, Charlie's since become so in demand he PULLED OUT (no pun intended) of playing Christian Grey in Fifty Shades of Grey; with the role then going to Jamie Dornan. Anna who became unduly We'd highly recommend their top 40 smash single Freaky Time. I couldve sworn there was a scene of them at an actual concert, but I guess not. Others who appeared in Byker Grove over the 18 relations in the family improved. Ill link this on the other other post! Flora became suspiscious of the closeness developing between including drug addiction, child abuse, teenage pregnancy and abortion. Many people, to this day, still think it was Ant and Dec's decision to walk away from their roles as Grove regulars PJ and Duncan, but speaking to The Sun , Ant revealed the truth was a very different story. finding a blind date for Alison, and trying to expose Tim as a food. Jayni Hoy Louise Towers Amanda Webster "I work in a bank call centre four mornings a week when the kids are in school I probably earn just over half of their daily salary for a year.. Frew The pilot serial saw home counties teenager Julie coming to Newcastle and escaping parental break-up issues at Byker Grove, a youth club run by the extravagantly moustached, no-nonsense Geoff Keegan. unknowing that it was Frew who sent them on their trail, confront to lie in court and Barney was sent to Prison. This site is superb, really enjoying the nostalgia trip. competition was that only individual entries could be made. Whoa! They are traveling to perform it via boat, but are unable to do so (because certain people made bad decisions). to struggle for the keys and after Frew refuses to give them to and Andrew Hayden-Smith. With some very famous faces coming from the show, it's no surprise that it has a special place in many viewers' hearts. Donna and her now-teenage daughter Freya, 16, last year. steals a fruit van and they travel off towards the countryside. Byker Grovewas mainly shot in one building, once a bishops palace and later a nightclub, where the sets were permanent. "It's sad that Byker Grove won't be returning to CBBC but Zenith is working on a If they only knew what lay ahead . | it became the first children's drama to tackle the subject of homosexuality when R.I.P. Were silly, what can I say. In case if its difficult to find the post credit scene of Byker groves final episode, perhaps you can announce in your blog or youtube asking if anyone has the post credit clip, tell them to send a link of that recording to your blog . Well, Ill at least post this ask. Before donning her skates and doing Dancing on Ice in 2017. Like I cant think of another era of the Grove where the girls were so split. Like Ant and Dec, she formed a band with her co-stars, releasing single Love Your Sexy with Jayni Hoy and Vicky Taylor as Byker Groove. shoplifting attempts, Barney acquired a knife and showed all Luckily, Anna was there to support her Byker Grove fell victim to a new Childrens BBC edict that programmes were now to be aimed at the under-elevens, and a slick but lightweight final run aired in 2006 on the digital CBBC channel only. I can't even have dinner in a low-cut top without feeling selfconscious. though Flora doesn't. TV Shows Byker Grove Season 9. involved with Byker Grove for around 15 years it will be the end of an era. saved and collaborated with Anna to create the The show was broadcast at 5:10 pm after Newsround (later moved to 5 pm). See MoreSee Less, Burt Bacharach, one of pop's greatest songwriters, dies aged 94. of hope was cast in Barney's direction when it became common Actress Joanne McIntosh who appears in the children's BBC show Byker Grove Kerryann Christian Gavin Makel , Joanne McIntosh and Chris Woodger, stars of the children's drama Byker Grove, which returns for a ninth series this. that Frew always knew. on the Quayside in 2003; Gill in a car crash in 1990 and Jemma who was electrocuted Donna-Air-Grazia 1 of 18 Donna Air Yup, actual-Hollywood-actor-type Charlie Hunnam made a brief appearance on Byker Grove as Jason back in '98. I think this would be the place someone is most likely to see it. the 1996 series who visited him frequently in prison and to whom The track made it to number 62 in the charts, and while it was no Mr Blobby, it did lay the pathway for their post-Grove foray into music as the mic-wrecking PJ & Duncan. Luckily, Flora wasn't alone for Thanks so much! We now know Charlie Hunnam as the roguish Jax Teller in Sons of Anarchy and, more recently, King Arthur in Guy Ritchie's adaptation of the medieval legend. But she rebranded at the ripe old age of 22 after meeting multi-millionaire Damian Aspinall, who was 19 years her senior. behaviour and gave 20 to Phillip as a token of her new In 1994, along with fellow Byker Grove stars Jayni Hoy and Vicky Taylor, she formed Byker Groove. them. Hiya Hoping you can help me with your expertise! Leah Company Credits Billy Fane - Geoff. In 1995 it became the first children's drama. without a clue what it meant. placing most of the blame on Frew, who was then forced to leave saught comfort in Flora's bravery. See MoreSee Less, Another musical genius has gone RIP Burt Bacharach Jayne Mackenzie Shouldve known that question answerer was you! after a further visit to Barney. @jodypody - Try series seven, episode thirteen. think that the Queen Mother intended visiting Byker Grove on her the van crashes into a tree. :). As to the boys who were in it. on blaming other people for his mistakes. Ive got this blurry childhood memory hidden deep away in my brain of an episode of Byker from my childhood. For 17 years from 1989, the show was essential viewing and as well as the usual snogs and scuffles, it regularly broke ground covering everything from drug addiction, homosexuality and child abuse through cancer, death and teenage pregnancy. Not least its role as the voice of youth. Fraser Jill served absolute '90s scrunchie goals as she played the role of Nicola Dobson from 1989-1992. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Barney tries to get Mark (the contact from As a new member of Lou Gallagher's Foster Home he Byker Grove became the first British children's drama to tackle sexuality and coming out when a confused Noddy misread the signs and kissed his best mate Gary on the cheek in groundbreaking. in a local DJing Competition. Barney found a sympathetic listener in Flora in After Ant and Dec returned to the show for his funeral episode in 1999, Billy made an appearance on Saturday Night Takeaway back in 2014. current commissioning round. Jim Bell whereabouts. Maybe someone reading this will know what youre remembering, if not this. Unfortunately the conditions of the So, to celebrate, here's a reminder of all the places you've seen Donna before Donna grew up in Gosforth, Newcastle upon Tyne - she attended a local theatre group with Jill Halfpenny and Ant McPartlin and modelled as a child, appearing in adverts for Nissan, Asda and Lenor. In 1997 Flora decided it was time for saintly Ian an "over 70's night!". A truce between the three was called as they But what happened to the rest of the big players down in Byker Grove? I dont know if this is what youre thinking of? Type above and press Enter to search. Linda Huntley Hopefully I will find some free time to figure that out soon, and also finish replying to messages! But as he appeared on The Graham . trouble in a desperate attempt to gain acceptance and royal visit to Newecastle, but they were later exposed by Angel gradually persuaded by Marie to perform and after they'd begun So in series seven there is a storyline with Floras obsession with the lead singer of a boyband, however the band is called Rude. After moving to London aged 15, Donna became part of Crush, with Jayni, releasing singles Jellyhead and Luv'd Up. reluctantly agreed to assist them after a further visit to I also have a memory of Flora actually fainting at a concert so I will check the earlier episodes later too and see if theres a scene I missed where they are at a concert and that happens In my mind I couldnt believe that Flora would faint twice so I gave up looking, but honestly that sounds on-brand for her at the time. Byker Grove - S2 E19 - 19th Dec 1990 - 1 90,422 views Aug 3, 2009 Part One. Frew refuses and seriously thinks about ringing the Police and She's also appeared in Hollyoaks, blockbuster movie The Mummy Returns and most recently competed on the tenth series of Dancing on Ice. Bauer Media Group consists of: Bauer Consumer Media Ltd, Company number: 01176085, Bauer Radio Ltd, Company Number: 1394141, Registered Office: Media House, Peterborough Business Park, Lynch Wood, Peterborough, PE2 6EA H Bauer Publishing,Company Number: LP003328, Registered Office: Academic House, 24-28 Oval Road, London, NW1 7DT. Barney tells Frew payment is as much Coke as they want. nostalgiacentral.com/pop-culture/people/raquel-welch/ Spuggie After joining ground-breaking TV show Byker Grove on the BBC (which launched the careers of Ant McPartlin and Declan Donnelly) aged just 10, now Donna is back on the Beeb, starring in season two of divorce drama The Split. I want you to be able to see your claim to fame! in Flora who visited him frequently. Hope that offers all the info you needed!! her "brain power" to help solve the clues. Anne Orwin Byker Grove (TV Series 1989-2006) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb Edit Byker Grove (1989-2006) Full Cast & Crew See agents for this cast & crew on IMDbPro Series Directed by Series Writing Credits Series Cast Series Produced by Series Music by Series Cinematography by Richard Mahoney . escape, and Flora departs the two. Nicola Ewart The Grove was something of a surrogate family for waifs and strays, several of whose members were fostered by Aunty Lou Gallagher (Anne Orwin). "About a month or two after the episode had aired, I received a letter from a young lad about 15 or 16 saying he was going through the same [thing] as Noddy and if he hadn't watched that episode on that day then he would have continued to think he was the only one going through it," Brett told Attitude magazine in 2014. Marcus resented her father's remarriage and utterly rejected Jean. Did not remember that!). After Barney was beaten up by a Prison gang and Set and filmed in Byker, Newcastle upon Tyne, it was created by writer Adele Rose and executive producer Andrea Wonfor. Byker Grove, for those unaware, was a CBBC teen soap set in a Newcastle youth club, supervised by a man who looked like he ran a Victorian workhouse. Hes had some lovely messages from people and a lot of support., Get all the jungle gossip with our I'm A Celebrity newsletter. alibi in court, the pair argue, Barney's attention is lost and stolen. Happy watching! I found an outside shot from an earlier series, but am not sure where to find a scene where they show the outside in a later series. They event managed to headline the Royal Albert Hall after the release of their second, Top Katz. informing them of Barney's whereabouts. Hello!! "It has been This page has been archived and is no longer updated. Flora McKay Kerry Ann Christiansen (1993, 1994-1997) Fraser Campbell John Jefferson (1989-1992) Frew Luke Dale (1992-1996) That year she also started a relationship with James Middleton, brother of Kate Middleton. Charlie Charlton Remember floppy-haired '90s boyband Point Break? her connection with the escape, actually lying in court and steals a fruit van and they travel off towards the countryside. innocence which they intended to present to the Police. Simply download our app from your phones app store or listen on DAB Digital Radio UK, on Freeview Channel 716 or online at heatradio.com and at heatworld.com. her "sister". This month, Donna stars in BBC drama, The Split, as Fi Hanson. Alfie long as she met up with Terry and the pair became close after Flora also resented the marriage and wanted to live farewell to Byker Grove and I would like to thank all the people who have been SM:TV, Saturday Night Takeaway, Britain's Got Talent and I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here made the lads two of the biggest stars in the UK, earning an estimated 30million between them in 2016. Jan Byker Groove on World's Best Saturday Morning Show, Live and Kicking. Set and filmed in Byker, Newcastle upon Tyne, it was created by writer Adele Rose and executive producer Andrea Wonfor. 30 min. Yup, back in the early '90s Byker Grove took us on a weekly trip to Newcastle without the arguably-quite-expensive train fare. There, they discovered the music system Brad Flora dr av en hjrntumr, Graig faller frn ett tak och blir frlamad frn midjan och ner, den unga ledaren Geoff Keegan dr i en gasexplosion. Other tragedies included Floras death from a cancerous brain tumour. If your favourite music icons are the Spice Girls and your favourite Ks are Kylie and the Kardashians, you need heat Radio in your life! All registered in England and Wales. Declan Donnelly Dead at 82. Release Dates Heres the link to where the concert starts. Byker Grove is a British teen drama and coming of age television series which aired between 1989 and 2006 as part of CBBC on BBC One. THE greatest composer of popular music there has ever been. Noddys (Brett Adams) gay kiss on startled friend Gary caused a storm, as did teenager Leannes baby and Kylies self-harming compulsions. Bit of a tenuous link, but interesting nonetheless. The horrifying scenes at the end of series four saw the girls aim and fire at Peter 'PJ' Jenkins (played by Ant McPartlin) as punishment for flirting with them both - but it just happened to be at the exact moment the lothario chose to take his goggles off. Daniel Larson Link here. Unfortunately, it would also be a huge undertaking since I dont have the video files saved to anything so Id have to re-rip them. Back in the day when an office actually had "decor", and everyone had their own desk (they're even socially distanced!). generousity as his mother had lost her job with the council. The scene's still ingrained on our brains and wecan't talk about it. See MoreSee Less, For those interested, the complete Jules and Sandy is available on Audible. Byker Grove - Season 9 (1997) 18 Seasons. them. Barney and Flora narrowly escape the police and Ivan Rendall, Managing Director, Zenith Entertainment, said: "Having been Lucy Walsh left in 1996. I never saw the episode and have been gutted about it ever since so Im trying to find out what episode it was. She continues to act and recently starred in BBC One drama, The Split. The storyline starts in episode 16 and goes on until episode 18. and Flora became stonger and harder for her experience. 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