The ELS version is an Extended Life engine and advertises 50% more life than the Intek. It has accessories for power deck lift and a mower jack for easy blade changes. Gravely ZT XL 52: $4200 Hi Jeff, The Ariens IKON XD and the Gravely ZT X are the same mower. Cub Cadet has put a lot of time into designing a deck that cuts just as well and from what Ive seen so far (on YouTube) it cuts very, very well. Hows the hustler dash, toro timecutter, or the ryobi rider? I also have balance challenges and some minor fine motor control issues (mild multiple sclerosis). Thank you for what you do. My overall goals were to have a reliable mower that could achieve a good cut and ultimately reduce my time spent mowing. Hi Ryan, I too have a lot of leaves. 2. Ive owned them since 1997 and they have never let me down. The manufactures dont specify but Id guess 140-180 F. Hope youre doing well, great article by the way. Hi Dick, The Toro TimeCutter and Cub Cadet XT1 will give you about the same life expectancy as your old Toro. The Jonsered tractor is actually a 2014ish Craftsman Yard Tractor. That said, You can get armrests for the XT1 and install them yourself. Exmark has its own decks and its tuned for the commercial operators who like to mow as fast as the mower will go. Any thoughts on that machine? Better suspension. I have 2 acres to mow and Ive most recently tried out a Ferris IS600z. PLEASE ADVISE. Even though the John Deere cuts very well I just have a problem with the price. The 48-inch deck will give you a better cut than the 54 inch and still get done quickly. Clean your deck with the deck wash every time you mow when the grass is still wet under the deck. The seat is thick, padded and has springs to help the ride. I have looked at the Ariens Ikon 52, Bad Boy Elite, Skag Liberty Z 52, and Toro Timemaster with Soft Ride Suspension. Why? Hi Dante, Thanks for the complete explanation. . Any thoughts on which way I should go? The Briggs is the base Intek and the Kohler will have a longer life. It has the heavier duty trannys and really rides nice! Unfortunately, the 50 inch is in high demand this year so you may have to go to a dealer to get it. Its now owned by a Chinese company though the mowers are still made in Beatrice, KS. I also expect that following the bed lines in the front part of the lawn will be more difficult with a garden tractor. I do not need to tow anything. There are two companies that make good flip-up deck mowers. What do you think about the Craftsman 42 inch Steering wheel zero turn. Scag has also been around for a long time and the larger mowers are very popular with landscape contractors. 42 inch stamped deck. When you are looking at the price of the Deere just remember the hitch is $150 additional! Yes, I like the Ariens but if you put the Ariens and Country Clipper side-by-side youll go with the Clipper. Im not clear about whether theyre planning to stock any of the new Apex models, but if its the same as the ZT HD then I dont really see why they would. Both have heavy-duty fabricated decks and Kohler/Kawasaki engines. Im now looking to replace that mower with another last mower. It appears everyone wants lap bar steering. Mower King Well-Known Member Joined Sep 19, 2018 Threads 20 Messages 663 Thats very helpful. 4. When Kawasaki first introduced their engines in the mid-90s you could buy one $300 cheaper than the competitors. They also have the traction to get up that slope. Hi Trent, The Commercial Series is an economical engine designed to have more 50% life than the Intek residential models. Use the side discharge until June or so. The Deere you are looking at uses the Intek. Street price: document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Subscribe to our mailing list and get interesting stuff and updates to your email inbox. Hi Frank, I wrote an article comparing it to the Ryobi and Cub Cadet here: 42-inch Electric Zero Turn Mowers Ryobi, EGO, or Cub Cadet? Great website and I love how you respond to everyones questions cause I actually browsed all your comments to help with my search and narrowed down my choices. Hi Larry, I have not seen that anyone has possession of one of the new Ryobi ZTRs yet. The cheap ones ($20 or more now) dont have vents so it takes forever to fill the tank on your lawn tractor. Country Clipper Boulevard (deck tilt) Thanks. Walker Model R (local dealer) The 4-point deck doesnt bounce on rough ground and follows the wheels of the mower. It helps the fuel last longer and the escaping vapors wont wreck the environment. If you have curbs/islands without handicap cutouts you will have to make a set of ramps to get over the curbs. The mower has a 10cc hydraulic pump and an incorporated motor unit. Cub Cadet vs. Kubota I see that a local dealer and Home Depot have the same mower for this. Hi Art, Good comment! Let me start with the cart. When the mower is out of service, should the deck be at a specific height, like all the way up or all the way down? Yes, most people dont see the advantage of the steering wheel so Toro is discontinuing it. Here are my questions: if i am willing to spend between 6-7k.. what would you say is the best mower i can get (residential/commercial). No, it doesnt ride quite as smooth as the Toro MX5075 but rides well and is built stronger than that Toro. One last question: is fabricated deck better than stamped? In particular, I noticed the engine on the Deere was much louder than my lawn tractor. 2. The long wheelbase also makes it a pain to move around on trailers because you can fit three-four ZTRs in the same space as two Grasshoppers. I am more confident with the purchase now. One of my local dealers does have some 2018 Gravely ZT HD 48 & 52 models in stock, and Im tempted. Please Subscribe to my YouTube Channel Please Note:If you click on most of the links in this article and buy any product I will make a small commission from that sale. IronForged Deck 24.5 HP Commercial V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower Available at The Home Depot Also available at Tractor Supply, ACME Tools and your local Toro Dealer. The Walkers best feature is its agility when trimming. Hi Carrie, At The Home Depot Toro TimeCutter MX5000 50 in. It all seems easy enough for me to do it, but its got a 3 yr warranty so what is the best practice? I was able to test drive the 2016. Titan 75316: 819 lbs: 409 - 491 lbs: Titan Max 76601: 876 lbs: 438 - 525 lbs: Note that I have . I read everything you wrote about ZTRs, heck I even created a spreadsheet that shows, brand, model, engine, HP, transmission, deck type, deck size, and price. Paul YouTube. The Gravely ZT HD is the same mower as the Apex. Do you have a preference in the Ariens XD 52 vs the Toro 50? Thank you for the post great information! On 2.5 acres you may only need to replace the blades every 3-4 years. The Compacts (all brands) are only for small residential flat areas that have gates you have to deal with. You should not use Gator Blades for SIDE-DISCHARGE. Hi James, the MyRide will give you the best possible ride. Both have great engines. (Its like having a locking diff on a Garden Tractor) I suggest the Z-Force S 48 for long life and the extra weight for traction. Here, the basic difference besides the HP rating is that Kohler engines are a bit costlier than Toro ones. Both are listed at the same price. The governor on the Kohler is a little more responsive when mowing tall, heavy grass. If you feel there is an different product that would better fit my needs then Id love to hear from you! Homeowners like their Spartan mowers a lot. I do like the ZT1 by Cub Cadet as well and the Z335E by John Derek. Dont worry about the commission. 1st time for ZTM. Toro's 60 in. Learn more in our Kubota vs. Bad Boy zero-turn mower comparison. Thanks for the feedback! Engine output is estimated at 22.2hp at 3,700 RPM. For more information on the Toro TITAN MAX and the limited HAVOC edition, please visit Toro's website. The biggest feature is Smart Speed. Its a three-speed lever that so you can slow the mower down when pulling heavy loads. Is it just a matter of finding which dealer is right for me? I really like the cut of the fabricated deck on the Toro MyRide. Make sure you idler pulley moves freely and that it spins freely. I basically just want a zero turn that will last me a very long time for $3000 or less. Keep the ZTR off slopes more than 15 degree and change the air filter every 50 hours or less and it will give you a long life. Bad Boy ZT Elite is an expensive ZTR mower from Bad Boy. Thats good to know. Dave. which is more solid and reliable unit? Kohler engine. You helped me 5 years ago buying a Big Dog Alpha and have followed and supported you since. They are a little higher priced than what you have listed in this article for Residential ZTs but I have heard good things about them. I havent been able to see much on the cut quality of the apex and if its worth the extra $1000. Hello Paul. For the few extra dollars buy the Toro or Ariens. Thanks again in advance! Im obviously wanting good cut quality and longevity out of the machine. With occasionally pulling a small cart of wood/ mulch, should I go with the 2800 transaxle over the 2200 transaxle? Hi Mike, The Ariens APEX and Gravely ZT HD are the same mower (just different paint) so if you have a Gravely dealer you may get a better price than the Ariens. Yes, my 1.5 acres does have slopes. The Boulevard is one of the best-built residential mowers on the market. In reality, they both weigh the same. The 4-point is also strong enough that you can step on it to get on and off the tractor. We do have wet grass often in the spring. Most components are identical but the decks are slightly different. Its worth the extra $400 over the Toro has better transmissions than the Toro and cuts as well as the Ariens. Blower has a steel blade. Ariens IKON XD Mowing Review. What Im looking for: Reliability, ease of maintenance, attaching and detaching bagging and mulching kit, cut, easy to handle, one user, 42 deck, budget around $3k and willing to spend around $1k for accessories (mulch kit and bag) Being a small yards I doubt I would benefit much from features or comfort so thats not important. Its well worth the extra money. I will not be towing with it. I would prefer one with mulching capacity that doesnt bog down, create mohawks, or leave grass clumps on my lawn or, worse, my sidewalk and driveway. I never recommend paying extra for the Kawasaki name. Now I am contemplating having them rebuild transmission which I believe will cost me about $1500 or maybe just get a good used or new zero turn. Q: How hot do these transmissions get? I would like to get something better preferably a zero turn to handle the flower beds but I am open to any suggestion you might have. I would be interested in buying one of these used, but dont want to buy a basket full of problems if thats the case with these two. I like the Ariens IKON X 42, the Troy Bilt Mustang Z42 670 cc V-TWIN as it seems like it has been built to last and supposedly has a smooth ride. I do have a fence, trees and a few other yard obstacles. The ZT 3100 with charge pumps has a history of blowing the o-rings around 500 hours. The Titan Max checked all of these boxes, reducing my mowing time by 30 minutes with an excellent cut and awesome warranty. I think I have narrowed my choices to the Toro MX5075 and the Ariens IKON XL. I would like your thoughts on my situation if you will, I live in rural eastern NC where the soil tends to have a lot of clay and its necessary to have drainage ditches for storm runoff. And yes the Ultima XT2 can pull it loaded around your property once in a while. I have a 1.5 acre country lot with some 10 degree slopes and trees to maneuver around. And trying to spend around $4-5k tops. Hi Daron, The differences are so minor between the 50 inch Cub Cadet and the 50 Toro that it almost boils down to Which color you do like? Commercial ZTRs 60 inches or wider are also rated for 15 degrees but because of the weight, a few can run on 20-degree slopes. When I first bought the property, the previous owner left me an old (and basic) Craftsman riding mower, which he had used for mowing. Lourdani, The Z Master 2000 is the entry-level commercial Toro. Thank you so much for the insight. Theyve always made the best commercial mowers. That gives me some confidence in both. Would the upgrades be worth the extra expense in your opinion? I really feel you are paying extra for the green paint compared to the Toro or even the Cub Cadet. The yard is not what Id call perfectly evenprobably typical for the countrybut the man who mows says its not bad. They are very intense about quality and never compromised by making residential models for the masses. The dealers near me have cub cadet and toro. I am considering John Deere, Toro, and Cub Cadet likely with a 42-46 deck. Please wish me and my wallet luck! Hi Daron, What Toro means is hitch/tongue weight or the downward force on the hitch, not what it can pull. Thank you for your diligence. You get a great mower at an honest price. 76601. Since you will buy this from a dealer ask a mechanic to show you how to level the deck. As an old fart who has been using ZTRs since they were introduced in the early 90s Im going to tell you a secret no one else will tell you today. I can get on and off without the rail, but it involves using the deck as a step, which the dealer says is fine. I did note that it was probably under-powered because the cutting deck would stop cutting while I was driving up the hill (and the motor seemed to struggle). Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed. Which One Is Best For You?. Travel as fast as 8.5 mph (13.7 kph) Buy / Tractor Supply. If you still want to pick up the mulched leaves then get this sweeper> Agri-Fab 44 in. Thoughts. Which one is better and is it worth the money to get the ikon xl? The Cub is heavier like all the other Zero Turns. My second choice is the Ariens IKON XL. They made a few improvements and painted them white. Hi Paul, Thank you for this info, it has been a tremendous help to me. Features : Hi Paul trying to decide between the Toro 75750 and the Ikon XD 52. Zero-turn Steering Wheel. It built even stronger and roomier for us larger people. Doesnt the Toro have limits on towing to 85 lbs? I know the toro is 708cc and the Kawasaki is 726cc. My yard is just over an acre, 95% flat with a small ditch in the front. Pretty set on a Kaw engine. Toro is the only one using the 2100 and they have been using them for years. I use a bungee cord to lift the discharge cover. Q: Is Kohler EFI engine a reliable engine? I also noticed that once you like their facebook page their advertising will start to show up in your regular news feed and a lot of those ads talk about sales. It makes the mower capable of avoiding cold start wear. I am very new into this arena and have always cut with a walk behind. Decent engine, decent transmissions and built well. Im looking at Cub Cadet PRO Z 148 S EFI and the Cub cadet Z-Force SX 48. John Deere Z530M. 42 (107 cm) TimeCutter Zero Turn Mower (75740) All the features of the step-through design including Smart Speed, 10 ga steel frame, ZT 2100 transmissions, hydraulic steering dampeners, and handcrafted seat. Hi Rob, each one has its advantages but they are so close in cut quality and durability the only real difference is the dealer support. Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower, One final item. For example, a 50-inch Toro Timecutter weighs 621 pounds, if the mower has a 60% load capacity then it can carry about 370 pounds. 1. They are called the ZT XL and ZT HD. Hey Paul, Very informative article! Hi Paul, have you looked at the new Scag residential zero turn yet? Anyways wanted to ask your thoughts before purchasing as you seem to be incredibly knowledgeable in this area, MyRide worth the extra money or are there other mowers out there that are a better deal in your opinion? Thanks again. That mower should be in the $2700 range and the fact you have to spend an EXTRA $160 for a hitch is ridiculous. Ive also read about the Ariens mowers you recommend. My machine will be for personal suburban residential use. After that, if you take care of the machine it will last for you. IronForged Deck 26 HP Commercial V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero Turn Riding Mower $5999 Husqvarna MZ61 24-HP V-Twin Hydrostatic 61-in Zero-Turn Lawn Mower $5499 Ariens Apex 23-HP V-twin Dual Hydrostatic 48-in Zero-Turn Lawn Mower $4799 Bad Boy MZ Magnum 54 in. Going green The Best Electric Riding Mowers, Lawn Tractors and ZTRs. But when you are comparing the Ariens models the new IKON XD compares closer to the Bad Boy Magnum. We can get the veterans discount at Lowes and Home Depot. But, Since you have a very rough lawn I recommend that you buy the Titan series with MyRide. ZTRs 42 The original seat is a good comfortable seat but I want one more conducive to one with back problems. If you see a pulley bouncing up and down or an idler bracket wobbling replace it. I favored the Kohler, but I dont care for the black and yellow or the dune buggy look. I would need about 20 hours per year out of the machine, at about 45 minutes per cut. Appreciate it. Im looking at the specs from a booklet recently supplied by the local Cub Cadet dealer, and for the ZT2 50, and it says that the power train is a Dual Hydro-Gear ZT-2800. Any ideas? My second choice is the Gravely ZT XL 52 inch. Im looking to purchase a zero turn ride on and to be completely honest and am over the place with what I want to do. Check it out here: https://homedepot.sjv.io/4V5DL It cuts great. The MX5075 is a good choice because of the suspension seat butIn this case, they add the suspension but to keep the cost down they use a normal ZT2200 residential transmission. The joystick seemed a little twitchy, but I think I could get used to it. Dealer is closest to my house. The Walker also rides great because you sit directly over the large drive tires. Do you think one would last longer than the other, or be more durable, or function better, or offer better traction? No one else has this type of control because Country Clipper has the patent but its by far the best zero-turn steering on the market. It mows really well and is a very dependable mower. I think thats unfair. Im not sure what Sears is up to so Im not recommending their mowers until I know where the company is headed. Have they had problems? I cut about 2.5 acres per week of mostly flat terrain, including some tough pasture grass. The Tractor itself is good but they put a cheap Briggs Intek motor in it. Earl, Depends on the slope. Hi Ryan, My first concern is service and parts availability. (You can raise the deck vertically once its on the trailer so it doesnt take up as much room.). But much of the remaining hillside (15 degree slope) ends at a tree line, so mowing straight up and down requires that I make turns on the hill. You will find it on entry level commercial mowers where the price is the most important feature. The Toro and the Ariens will both mow your entire 2 acres in less than an hour so you can always just mow it all every week . You mentioned that there are more than 500 models of mowers out there, so it would be impossible to review them all, but I would like to see what you have to say about the Ultima ZT2 50 compared to the two Jonsered riding lawn mowers sold by Costco https://www.costco.com/CatalogSearch?dept=All&keyword=Jonsered. I was suggested to get a zero turn with steering wheel but I am hearing those are being discontinued and then another dealer told me to get the lap bars. 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